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Michael Danton
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In my original concpt, I had actually written a plotline that involves the skyship running out of whatever keeps it aloft... energy, a slow leak, she accidentally damages it... whatever. I decided to remove that part in preference of making a conscious decision to put themselves in harms way for the greater good. If she knew that was happening, it would be in her best interests to think and prepare herself as much as possible. That was the same tack I took in a novel I've shelved for the past few years...
Anyhow, I think I've got a moral for your story...
Consider this.
Forget about plagues, robots and invaders. Instead, just assume there's nothing wrong with the surface at all. Nothing! In-fact it's paradise. The people in ships above it can't remember why they left it in droves but made up all kind of terrible stories to justify remaining up there. The girl who is forced there is only terrorized by the unknown but soon revels in enlightenment. It's simple, smart and the only thing she has to fear is fear itself.
-Truman
M.
P.S.
Nice Picture, did you draw it?
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| Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:21 pm |
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nairo
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possible option. this could turn out great depends on how it's told, I could imagene her being scared at first thinking the world really did turn out bad but soon finds out its just really futuristic. Seems a bit to shabby tho (as it's hard to let go of all those ideas, which is pretty bad cause it seems to have grown on me).
Why would people want them in the air all the time, maybe some scam by the government...
it's plausible. but I feel there can be a much more interesting result in the ideas of a world we had before.
about the avatar, thank you M c:
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| Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:20 pm |
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Michael Danton
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Well, oftentimes in writing, especially in sci-fi and fantasy -- you don't really need a reason for things to be, it just is... and a lot of people accept that. Why is there a platform 9 3/4 in Harry Potter whent they could have zipped across the countryside in an instant with flue powder. Sometimes reason can get in the way of a good story
So you've heard our ideas on the subject and you're obviously solidifying your own. What takes your fancy?
M.
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| Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:44 pm |
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nairo
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I'd say go on with the survival of the girl and ancient robot. getting back to the ship/dropping point and not killing of that girl but the robot. Dramatic for a girl to discover a so very kind robot that shows her a way back to the ship and later on it gets shot by her people. it might not be crucial to the plot but it does give us that dramatic ending
"Will our protagonist get back to her ship?" gets my approval because yes we can make it bigger, but bigger doesn't make it a better story. and we could always add that she has something the ship needs in order to keep going.
Is Sistine still up for writing the scipt?
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:33 am |
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Michael Danton
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Sounds like a fair idea, although I hate the idea of wholesale slaughter of all your loved characters at the end. The very thought of it leaves me cold. Then again, I'm not going to be the one writing it.... Sistine should be around somewhere, I haven't heard from him in days either.
M.
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:34 am |
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nairo
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This is taking to long, I guess he's just busy at the moment.
Probably to much to ask from you M, I was wondering if you have any time free could you write down a small scene of the story. to test it out. I have a friend who is fairly interested in composing the score and I would like to do a couple of storyboards myself. If you'd do that I would be very thankfull.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:03 am |
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Dr. E. Worm
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the only thing she has to fear is fear itself.
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Actually, Roosevelt. Close enough.
Anywho, this looks like it can turn out to be pretty cool. FP can use a success story like this. Good luck to everyone involved.
And just to put in my two cents: I thought of a sort of compromise between the two of your ideas that retains both the excitement and action of Nairo's idea and the poignancy of M's. Hows about you keep the killer robots/aliens/zombies/whatever on the surface, but they turn out to be noble and misunderstood, while the airship folks are actually the evil oppressors.
Or (and I think that this is even better), don't even go that far. Instead, put both camps in firm shades of gray. It seems to me that for much of the story, these surface creatures are a faceless, formless evil. So then instead of giving them a predictable face or no face at all, why not go the realistic route and just give them a face. No good guys or bad guys, just guys, each side with their own justifiable motives, fighting against each other for no readily determinable concrete reason. Just like in real life.
I dunno, just something to think about...
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:23 pm |
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Michael Danton
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Roosevelt? God damn I hate being around educated people
Great story ideas, we've spun this concept in so many directions I'm sure one of them has to be a winner. Quite honestly I'm much too busy for another project. Unfortunately my other projects: education, website, musical, podcasts and social life -in that order -- takes up all of my time and leaves little to spare. It's a pity that Sistine has strangely and suddenly disappeared after he was so keen on the project- I suspect his computer must have exploded or similar.
As I said before, I would love to do this; but I can't. I can however offer my teleplays for your perusal. Wiseguys at about 30 minutes and Sinner at 20ish should be right up your alley... For Sinner you don't even need VAs since there's no spoken dialogue
M. - The poignant.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:18 pm |
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nairo
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I really like your vision on this. Losing the airship concept gives us a lot more free space as it would be a lot harder to build a convincing story around that. Doing this on the ground doesn't sound bad at all. As long as there still is a feeling of isolation. maybe a base camp?
Also like the idea about robots having their own conflicts, I can imagene they all have their enemies. like a jungle warzone, a reason for the humans to isolate themselves.
I wanna thank you for those ideas, it's inspiring me a lot!
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:38 pm |
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Michael Danton
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You're still intent on making an animation? I don't want to slight on your ability; but wouldn't a detailed storyboard (otherwise known as a comic) be a more attainable goal? Surely you could do two or three of those in the same time you could do an animation... It's probably a lot more marketable too.
Think of old comics like "tales from the crypt" back in the 80's they did some great stuff and they made a lot of money too. If you start drawing those, I guarantee you'll have no end of authors lining up to provide top-drawer stories.
I'll probably be one of them.
M.
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